# Philosophical question . . .
**URL:** https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490
**Category:** Off-topic
**Created:** [February 28, 2026, 6:52am UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490 "2026-02-28T06:52:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Lee](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Steve_Lee)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2026, 6:52am UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/1 "2026-02-28T06:52:52Z")
Anyone have an objective perspective of subjectivity to share?
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### Author:  [@a4eaudio](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/a4eaudio)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2026, 7:20am UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/2 "2026-02-28T07:20:00Z")
No, but I subjectively think objective perspectives tend to suck!
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Lee](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Steve_Lee)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2026, 8:34am UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/3 "2026-02-28T08:34:18Z")
Wonder how much ego plays a role in the dichotomy? . . .
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### Author:  [@4thtry](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/4thtry)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2026, 5:31pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/5 "2026-02-28T17:31:06Z")
I think we need better tools to objectively evaluate how a speaker interacts with room boundaries below 500Hz. It is currently too much of a subjective guessing game. BSC and NF/FF merger modeling can give us quasi-anechoic curves down to 10Hz, but we donāt listen in an anechoic chamber.
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### Author:  [@Eggguy](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Eggguy)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2026, 8:10pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/6 "2026-02-28T20:10:52Z")
I wonder if JR would like the sound of this speaker? I am presenting data which I consider to be somewhat objective. This is what I collected on my not a rocket speakers 0-90 on two stands 41 inch total. One meter
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Lee](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Steve_Lee)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2026, 10:18pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/7 "2026-02-28T22:18:37Z")
Great response - thanks for putting Geddes & Oliveās work into perspective.
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Lee](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Steve_Lee)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2026, 10:20pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/8 "2026-02-28T22:20:36Z")
I am definitely in agreement with this response as crossovers between the mid and woofer are most critical to me and difficult to attain with coherence.
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Lee](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Steve_Lee)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2026, 10:22pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/9 "2026-02-28T22:22:56Z")
Objectively it looks great and with a little shelving and PEQ could be perfect.
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### Author:  [@jr-mac](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/jr-mac)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2026, 7:02pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/10 "2026-03-01T19:02:03Z")
I would have to give it a listen, but it looks good on paper.
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### Author:  [@Maynardg](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Maynardg)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2026, 8:28pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/11 "2026-03-03T20:28:17Z")
If it doesnāt move you, all the engineering in the world goes for naught.
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### Author:  [@Eggguy](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Eggguy)
#### Post date: [March 3, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/12 "2026-03-03T22:32:17Z")
Learning what not to do is helpful to me.
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### Author:  [@Hobi](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Hobi)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2026, 11:58pm UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/13 "2026-03-05T23:58:54Z")
Another question : what do we mean by ābetterā, not just in hi fi, but music, cars, food, whatever:
is a Mercedes better than a Camry? By many objective measures, like reliability and build quality, no;
is something better because it costs more - might be sometimes, but often, no;
is butter ābetterā than margarine, or fillet steak better than sirloin - depends on the use;
is one speaker better than another because it can play louder - maybe, but it could also sound awful;
is Vituix CAD better than Xsim - not for me, because I canāt understand it;
was Hendrix a better guitar player than Frank Zappa - depends on whether you value feel and sound over technical proficiency, etc etc
For me anyway, ābetterā means is X fit for purpose compared to its competition?
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### Author:  [@6thplanet](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/6thplanet)
#### Post date: [March 6, 2026, 11:38am UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/14 "2026-03-06T11:38:48Z")
Yeah, I donāt like that ābetterā termā¦ādifferentā works better.
A Top Fuel dragster is better than a Camry for going fast down a dragstrip. A Camry is better for going to the grocery store, but trying to take the dragster to the grocery, well that would be different.
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Lee](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/u/Steve_Lee)
#### Post date: [March 7, 2026, 11:22am UTC](https://discourse.midwestaudio.club/t/philosophical-question/490/15 "2026-03-07T11:22:57Z")
Grocery store had better be behind a barricade and at the end of strip . . . š