Anyone have an objective perspective of subjectivity to share?
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No, but I subjectively think objective perspectives tend to suck!
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Wonder how much ego plays a role in the dichotomy? . . .
I realize youāre just trying to be funny, but one could argue that all research on psychoacoustics and listener preference is aimed at providing an objective insight on subjectivity. The likes of Earl Geddes and Sean Olive have dedicated much of their professional life to it.
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I think we need better tools to objectively evaluate how a speaker interacts with room boundaries below 500Hz. It is currently too much of a subjective guessing game. BSC and NF/FF merger modeling can give us quasi-anechoic curves down to 10Hz, but we donāt listen in an anechoic chamber.
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I wonder if JR would like the sound of this speaker? I am presenting data which I consider to be somewhat objective. This is what I collected on my not a rocket speakers 0-90 on two stands 41 inch total. One meter
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Great response - thanks for putting Geddes & Oliveās work into perspective.
I am definitely in agreement with this response as crossovers between the mid and woofer are most critical to me and difficult to attain with coherence.
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Objectively it looks great and with a little shelving and PEQ could be perfect.
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I would have to give it a listen, but it looks good on paper.
If it doesnāt move you, all the engineering in the world goes for naught.
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Learning what not to do is helpful to me.
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Another question : what do we mean by ābetterā, not just in hi fi, but music, cars, food, whatever:
is a Mercedes better than a Camry? By many objective measures, like reliability and build quality, no;
is something better because it costs more - might be sometimes, but often, no;
is butter ābetterā than margarine, or fillet steak better than sirloin - depends on the use;
is one speaker better than another because it can play louder - maybe, but it could also sound awful;
is Vituix CAD better than Xsim - not for me, because I canāt understand it;
was Hendrix a better guitar player than Frank Zappa - depends on whether you value feel and sound over technical proficiency, etc etc
For me anyway, ābetterā means is X fit for purpose compared to its competition?
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Yeah, I donāt like that ābetterā termā¦ādifferentā works better.
A Top Fuel dragster is better than a Camry for going fast down a dragstrip. A Camry is better for going to the grocery store, but trying to take the dragster to the grocery, well that would be different.