Active Classix

A friend from California visited recently and heard the Dactives and wanted a pair for his shop. The woofer I used was NLA and the cost of shipping speakers to California is prohibitive so we came up with a plan.

We would use the same tweeter and use the Dayton Audio DC160-4 woofer (which I already had) and both buy the same knock down cabinet. He lacks test equipment and a wood shop so I will cut the driver cutouts from my cabinets front baffles, measure the drivers in box and program the KADB board. Then I will ship him the front baffles and configuration file for the amp. I will make myself another set of front baffles.

DC160-4 Woofer
SB Acoustics SB19ST-C000-4

Paul Carmody used the woofer in a version of his Classix and the woofer models well in a .6 cu. ft. box.

Cynergy Audio sells a nice .61 cu. ft. knock down cabinet.

Denovo Cabinet

A pair of cabinets came shipped 2nd day air for $85. Amazingly 2nd day air was the only shipping option.

The cabinets came well packed.

Unpacked parts.

Gluing in the bracing.

Gluing in the tops and bottoms.

Gluing the sides.

Ready for the baffles.

The cabinets came with all the dado’s cut in the back panel and everything fit. The panels even have a slight overhang so it will be easy to do a little sanding to get the clean corner joints. I used Titebond Speed Set glue and really like it. They claim 15 minute clamp time and once it was dry the glue squeeze out came off the MDF easily with a chisel.

More to come.

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Interesting that the 3/4" SB19 has a much lower Fs than the BC25TG which was used in the Classix II. Paul now uses a different tweeter in that design (a Dayton, I think) but I thought the Vifa version sounded fine, as should the SB19.

The four ohm DC160 is supposed to be 2dB more efficient than the eight so it will be nice to get a bit more output from that design.

We can’t get knock down cabinets like those Denovos here, which a real obstacle to people doing DIY speakers. Shipping (even by ship rather than air freight) from the US is prohibitive.

Nice project!

Neat glue! I’ll have to try some out.

What’s the working time for the glue? Is it too tight. Usually it takes a bit of wiggling to get 5 sides squared and glued, braces also need some pulling and pushing.

Titebond says 2-4 minutes open time. This is the first time I’ve used it on a big project and since everything fit so well I really didn’t have to worry about open time. I discovered this glue in a video where they were putting down short strips of wood by just putting them in place side by side without clamps. One of the things I liked was that it’s thinner than standard Titebond. It comes out of the bottle easily and is easier to spread out.

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My DATS derived sim measurements came up with 88db 1w/1m. The amp board is rated 30W but since it’s a chip amp 15W is closer to what it can do cleanly. The sim predicts 99db at 1 meter which is identical to the Dactives and they play loud enough.

Cool project Ron. You have some lucky friends :slight_smile:

As many builders have noted, apart from the bass, a key attribute of the Classix is their smooth, slightly ‘laid back’ sound, much of which, I guess, is down to the characteristics of the DC160. It worked particularly well with my 60s and 70s music and older classical recordings and didn’t need a sub.