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It can be distracting, but try not to focus too closely on the “wraps”, it’s really not as significant of an event as it looks, is simply the way the phase is plotted, the wrap-around is just change from 180 degrees to 181 degrees. So when you invert the response, all the zero crossing points become the 180 degree wrapping points and vice versa.

In the first image, phase is aligned at 4kHz, both traces are at -180 degrees. In the second image, it is aligned at 4kHz as well, at 0 degrees, or 180 degrees from previous.

In the first image, at 10kHz, green trace is about 100 degrees, red trace is at -60. In the second image, without looking we can assume green trace is 100 degrees - 180 = -80 degrees. Red trace is -60 - 180 = -240, or “wrapped around” to +120.

Make sense?

@6thplanet - rather than taking a pic of the laptop screen, use the “Snipping tool”. Press SHIFT+START+S (or Windows key instead of START, depending on how it is labeled) and select the area you want to “snip”. Click SAVE (the little floppy disk icon) to save as *.png.

You don’t even need to save the file, it goes straight to your clipboard, you can paste it directly into the forum.

Thanks David. Maybe I’ll get VC yet.
But since I can only measure in an 8 foot tall room, I can really only measure quasi-anechoically at about 1 meter, so how to handle VCs insistence on 2 meter measurements / sims

More messing around. Switched to 12/12 on the WM xover and tweaked the MT xover, better phase tracking all around.


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Are you concerned about the horizontal power response?

:man_shrugging:t2:, red trace?

Well I was overly optimistic about getting all the xover parts on the one board. After analysing the situation, I decided to add another xover board for the woofer parts.

Built a couple boards with heatsinks and did the ol bolt the boards to the mounts and glue in place trick. Once dried I’ll remove and install all the junk that goes on it.


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Turns out I mounted the wrong resistors​:man_facepalming:t2: So swapped those, mounted all the components, and wired up.

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Mid and tweeter xovers done.

Final schematic, 380Hz and 4.1KHz

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Massive! Love it. Beat those drivers into submission.

Way more advanced circuit than I would ever do.

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28.8mH and 200uf in the woofer notch!! :astonished_face:

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There was some beating into submission. The tweeter has a peak right at roll off


So had to notch that to get it to cooperate.

Originally I had a 6dB HP on the mid, that required notching the Fs. I later switch to 12dB and raised the xover point. Probably could have ditched it, but it kept everything smooth down there. Tank on the LP coil for some minor break up control.

Last is the big notch on the woofer. When passively LPing a woofer you get some peaking of the overall response. You also get a drop in impedance. That 26.8 (27mH) / 200uF notch smooths out that peak and raises the impedance. I was really surprised how much more fluent the low end sounded after implementing that notch. I picked that up from that PK Audio guy over on the DIYAudio board.

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Cool concept. Thanks for sharing. In your pic, those 27mH inductors actually look quite small compared to the big 160uF PP caps!! :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Yeah, I wish the lower voltage option would have been available on that 160.

Working on the front base trim. First iteration no worky. Gluing copper to wood is NOT a good idea… thermal expansion. So copper piece separately glued on with the urethane sealant. The maple piece will be off for clear, then also glued on with said sealant.

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Xovers installed and wired up.

Took the driver mounting screws to be Cerakoted

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